Whereas T-56 gears (right) were carved from complicated 1-piece forgings, which required generous amounts of space to be left for machining of the clutching teeth, the TR-6060 and Magnum (left) advanced to a more sophisticated 2-piece construction. I read about bellhousing shims and other problems. Weighs 95lb but rated at 600 ft-lbs, and smaller than the 3550/tko family. TREMEC TKO-5-speed. 6 speed isn't important I just want a tough trans that can handle 700ish hp. I developed and installed the first GM Tremec 3550 into my 1968 Z-28 back in 1993. there is the astro and g-force kits for the t5, i have no experience with them, in theory they should be about as strong as a tko (gear wise), but at those levels the case starts being suspect. Just looked at kit, maintains cable clutch, pretty pricey. You are right though in stock form a T45 is a pretty weak tranny, but I did think it shifted pretty nicely. dry • Multiple shifter locations & dual speedo pick-ups for extreme versatility • Robust 3-rail internal shift mechanism offers firm, positive shifts My thoughts were similar about the 6th gear...the tko600 says its only rated for 600ftlbs. ... (TKO, T56 Magnum) and went this direction because it was the lighter option without completely compromising strength. The Magnum is the best hands down. You need a 26 spline disc, specific bell housing and a different tailshaft yolk, 31 spline I believe. $2,929.00 (w-Pro 5.0 Shifter $3,104.00) Bronze Shift Fork Pads; Surface Enhancement Processed Hubs & Sliders I have decided to swap my Tremec TKO 5 speed for the T56 Magnum 6 speed. I have a tight budget but at this point I don’t care. A new TKO is $2100. TKO 600 or T56 Hello, Currently in the middle of building an open track, autocross, weekend fun, mountain driving car and i need to pick a transmission. I know your 67 Camaro very well. The TKO 600 differs slightly in gear ratios from that of TKO 500. And some sort of modification to adapt the pedal from cable to whatever Run the internal slave can of the t56. the tko is naturally stronger with a stiffer case, but the stock brass synchros dont have much friction for slowing/speeding up the heavy gears (can be fixed with carbon-lined cones), and the three-rail shifter is not the smoothest in the world to begin with. Posted by 11 months ago. The T56 is on my wish list too. So the tko600 isnt good for the street? 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-, Revised 29-May-2016 to add shop supplies and miscellaneous changes. I have my tko out and a t56 arriving in 2 days. It may not display this or other websites correctly. What should I get? Metric dimensions have been converted to inches and rounded to the nearest 0.1 in. I believe modern drivelines kit comes witg everything to get it in the car...i just wasnt sure if it was anything special to install as opposed to a generic manual trans install. The TKO is "OK", but I too have experienced the 2-3 shift BS at the track. For higher-horsepower vehicles, step up to the latest iteration of the legendary Tremec TKO 5-speed. Why is everyone so obsessed with the t56 over the tko? plenty strong for most "normal" setups (a wild turbo big inch is probably out), just notchy shifting. Sure does seem like more work than it's worth. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 7 of 7 Posts. Notes. The TKO 5-speed is an early top-loader–style transmission rated for up to 600 lb-ft of torque capacity, and it can be reliably shifted at engine speeds up to 6,200 rpm. Literally I can flick the shifter and it'll go into gear.. JavaScript is disabled. T45? The new Tremec TKX five-speed manual transmission is a new evolution of the five-speed that is built to take today's power outputs and RPM requirements. TKO will not shift as good as either but want cost you as many hp as the T56. Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by Chances50, Jun 17, 2012. shifting over 7K consistently isn't easy with the TKO.. T56 Mag these two aren't really even comparable lol.. Haven't really looked at t45's but I will. The T56 Magnum is god lol.. You could have bought and fully built a t45 for 5-800 less than you can have a stock t56. Does the t56 fit in the tunnel? Never done either, but the tko is a simpler swap from what I understand. But will it handle 700 when built using the right parts and still be smooth as silk? Jag Project Car, Noisy Valvetrain after H/C/I install and I thought I did everything right. ... AFM B-451 cam, TFS Twisted Wedge, Holley Systemax, A1000, Snow Meth, TKO 600, Team Z, Strange, MM, Lakewood and Moser helps me go forward fast. I haven't seen this question answered before though. American Powertrain sells the TKO 500 to handle as much as 500 ft.-lbs. IMHO street/strip/auto-x cars do not benefit from 6 speeds- it's really one gear too many. The TKO-600 has a 36% overdrive and reduces rpm from 3000 to 1920 rpm. Have a 65 Malibu SS 427 BBC roller cam, mpfi consevitive 525hp 550tq. Tremec TKO 5-Speed Transmission. You are using an out of date browser. Official TCI Engineering Test Car Sponsored by AFR Heads. Ive never driven either as no one anywhere around me has one. I'm tying to decide between a TKO600 & T-56 Magnum. Strip the old setup, clean and install the new flywheel, clutch, bellhousing etc and done? Close. Slick, short shifts, gobs of torque capacity, and very refined. An equivalent T56 to our version of a 3650 would set you back at least $6,500—but, yes, we offer those, too." I'm basing my opinion on the fact that you have a 5 speed mach (assuming) and the fact that the 3650 is a notchy bitch despite the fact it is the strongest manual trans (when built). TKO600 vs T56 Magnum Discussion in 'Road Side Pub' started by Chances50 ... T-56, TR-3650, and TR-3550/TKO equipped cars. So far, I have been completely happy. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. The you would need to install a clutch fluid resivour. 1. In the process of installing one of your TKO-600’s in my 65 Corvette behind a 427 LS-3 and having issues with tunnel clearance on top to achieve the necessary driveline angles. My 66 Cutlass has a TH-400 currently. Someday provided my fox lives long enough I will get a T56. Shifts better than my T45 with a MGW.. factory crossmember can be used, just have to cut the tacks on the tubes and slide it all the way back. I have a G Force T5 in my car and it has held up well. The T56 is also about 25 lbs heavier than the TKO. **Dimensions B through E include 0.5-inch-thick adapter plate. New trans mount probably modification to the tunnel to align the shifter. Build borrow or buy one if you plan to DIY this job. I need to raise the tailshaft and just questioning if the new TKX provides more … That being said, I already want something stronger. 2001 Mustang Bullitt #2751 Novi 2000 Blown and Cooled 405.37/393.71 at 11psi:b01: Modern driveline has an all inclusive kit i guess but havent spoken to them yet. TKO 600 vs T56? C o m . Jeff Kauffman of Silver Sport Transmissions explains. I've had a 600/650 A5 with an upgraded G-Force case for over 3 years. Archived. The TREMEC Magnum and TR-6060 utilize 2-piece speed gears. TKO for the same money you can have a T56. TKO 600 vs T56 Magnum; Visit our community sponsor. The t56 is an lt1 so your ls t56 would have a longer bell housing. I have driven my Mustang real hard for years on the street and road course with no trouble from trans with my mods maybe 260 HP or so. Either a faceplated tko 600, or a G Force 101A. You could literally compare them side by side. T56 6 speed transmission Walk around Specs and Detailshttps://www.tdmotion.com Build borrow or buy one if you plan to DIY this job. Both the TK500/600 and T56 are too heavy to lift without a transmission jack. I would install a TKO-500 or TKO-600 into your car in a heartbeat. This tends to be suitable for the vast majority of 4-to-5-speed conversions. tko is simple, just needs a different clutch disc (26 spline), bell, and output, but otherwise just slides right in. Save Share. I am planning on having this work done at a local shop. Both the TK500/600 and T56 are too heavy to lift without a transmission jack. 68 SS, 383, TKO 600/3.73's … B ... Plus I don't know from experience, but only what Ive heard is that some of those T56 arnt really geared that well for drag racing. What should I get? This is the 1-2 fork with three pads while the Fifth gear fork uses only two. Messages: 1,362 Likes Received: 0. ). I have a tko 600 in the 73 vette,I like it but ,2nd to 3rd would go into 5th on aggressive driving ,,and 4th to 5th is a big drop that I dont care for. Tremec T-56 vs. Tremec TKO-600 *POLL RESET* Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BlackCobra50, Aug 28, 2009. If this was a TKO 600 or F-body T56 thread, I would say TKO all the way. Ok I know this subject has been explored before. With the overdrive I was able to reduce engine speed 32% from 3000 rpm to 2040 rpm. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Tremec TKO 600 – $2,595 Click here for more information on Tremec TKO Transmissions. Again im at 500rwhp now and when i build the dart ill probably bump it to the 650-800rwhp range so wanting something that can handle that too if i decide to push it that high. You must log in or register to reply here. The T-56 is a better trans,then the TKO. Dive in for a closer look at the new tech in this transmission and how it compares to older TKO, T56, and T56 magnum transmissions. Seriously OP it's worth the 1200 extra bucks.. Op, id like to clarify what I'm getting at here. However, I wish I sucked it up and paid an extra $800 for the new Magnum when I bought mine. It’s almost like a hybrid T5 and TKO. I did have to get the T56 in my 2000 Camaro SS rebuilt, car is all stock, don't know how hard it was driven before I got it in 2010. It is also heavier and more expensive. The tranny is mated to a 454/478 SAE 9.5 deck stroker with a Ram Power Grip clutch and a QT bell. Having never installed a trans but being mechanically inclined is this something i can tackle? I am back to considering the t56 as it appears the camaro modifications aren't as major. Joined: Opinions please for TKO vs T5 vs T56. Shoot me an email. http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/in...?cPath=108_127, http://www.ddperformance.com/shop/pr...45cPath=107_91, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Sounds like a lot of work. The TKO 600 has a 5th gear ratio at .82 compared to the .68 of the TKO 500. Is that a hard number or is it under-rated? Even though I feel the TKO 600 has been a great transmission and has only a thousand miles on it.I have driven a couple of six speed cars and feel that the six speed would work better for … OP I don't know about aftermarket T56's like the Magnum of Viper spec trannies, but a GT500 shifts much better than a 03 Cobra IMO. The TKO-500/600 uses a total of nine pads for a complete transmission. TKO 600 Vs TR3650. Is the t45 bullet proof? When comparing the GV VS TKO, for the TKO you need to add in the cost of a new clutch, flywheel, bell housing, dust plate, adapter plate(if using the top loader bell), fork, clutch pedal, cable or master, slave and plumbing, shifter, x member, speedo cable and gears plus all the hardware. Infact the T56 was one of my lesser favorite parts about the car. Transmission and Clutch replacement 79-95 V8 Mustangs Revised 29-May-2016 to add shop supplies and miscellaneous changes Before you get started, buy a Chilton or Haynes shop manual. It is roughly 700 dollars more than the tko which makes it enticing as it would provide more options for overdrive. Food for thought. there is faceplating and all that available but its costly, and theres only a couple shops that do it that i know of. Not to mention the instructions say not to … And is the install as simple as it seems? No. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 14 of 14 Posts ... Based on that experience, I bought a TKO 600 with the close-ratio gear set for my coupe from Mike Forte with the mid-shift modification (won't be driving for a while). Im at 500rwhp now so i know my T5 isnt going to last forever...ive been trying to take it easy for now until next year when i can hopefully upgrade. The TKO 600 5 Speed is ideal for high-performance racing applications. The T56's syncro's can be a PITA. of tire-shredding torque. Yes. Not that it matters much but my Camaro gets 27 mpg on the highway with that 6th gear. If you plan on doing a lot of freeway driving, seems like the OD is the only way to go. T56 is … that's the 5 speed behind the 96-98 Cobra.. not that great of a transmission, and definitely NOT up to handling the torque of a supercharged engine. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Aug 28, 2009 #1. also in theory they will shift as smooth as a stock t5, since they keep the single-rail shift mech. I read it has a bearing package similar to the t56 as well to aid in the shifting issues and take the load better ... Feb 18, 2001 35,651 11,650 224 Massachusetts. of torque; the TKO 600 can take on as much as 600 ft.-lbs. Upgraded – Synchronized. Cost is the only downside of a TKO/T56 vs a Muncie. What is the best bang for the buck for a 400hp LS engine? TKO 5-SPEED • The original 5-speed overdrive heavyweight • Up to 600 lb-ft. of torque capacity / 6,200 rpm shift capability • Exceptionally light at just 99 lbs. What is the best bang for the buck for a 400hp LS engine? Well a manual trans swap isn’t the hardest thing I mean it’s pretty straight forward, ive never done a t-56 but I’d imagine you would need a bell housing, correct flywheel and compatible clutch kit, modified driveshaft with correct yoke, balanced and lengthened correctly. Silver Sport Transmissions offers TREMEC T-5, TKO, TR-4050, Magnum, Magnum-F, and Magnum-XL 5 & 6-Speeds as well as A41 and A41X 4-Speed Automatic conversion kits for classic cars, trucks, street rods, 4WDs, and select imports. Reply. TKO 500 vs TKO 600 vs T56 magnum. To start viewing messages, select the … Most people i see who had TKOs upgraded to the t56 which leads me to believe its just a better all around unit? DISCONTINUED PRODUCT Designed to be a replacement of the earlier model TR-3550, the TKO 600 5 Speed has been significantly upgraded, making it more robust, flexible and versatile. American Powertrain: TKO 500 and TKO 600 Transmissions. BlackCobra50 Well-Known Member. I was originally going to pick a T56, but when i talked to the guys at modern driveline, they said i was better off going with a TKO 600. They also have a mechanical linkage that can be used with it now. Sales @ o r i o n - a r m s . What is the difference between the TREMEC TKO 500 and 600? Ford Racing M-7560-A302N - Ford Racing Clutch Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com, Ford Racing M-6375-B302 - Ford Racing Flywheels - Overview - SummitRacing.com, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/F...ilter=1&query=Part+Type|Throwout+BearingsFord, http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-7548-A/, Summit Racing - High Performance Car and Truck Parts l 800-230-3030, Ford Racing M-7553-B302 - Ford Racing V-8 Mustang Adjustable Clutch Linkage Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com, Steeda Autosports 555-7021 - Steeda Autosports Firewall Cable Adjusters - Overview - SummitRacing.com, 1995 stock Mustang EFI vs aftermarket TBI or Edelbrock injection? I know everyone loves the t56 and its superior but looking for opinions. But after that it began to shift smooth during the break in. TKO 500 vs TKO 600 vs T56 magnum. Alright ladies & gentlemen, although I'm in the middle of a front suspension upgrade (including a new set of Rushforths) and manual to power steering conversion; I'm thinking about a transmission swap. By the time you buy a t56, driveshaft, pinion flange (stock mach flange won't work with cobra driveshaft), cross member etc. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.

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